|
Post by DeadCanDanceR on Jul 28, 2023 14:57:09 GMT -5
Nice Aston! I'd love to add one of those vintage Aston racers to my collection someday!
|
|
|
Post by Tom on Jul 28, 2023 16:10:27 GMT -5
Fab history (albeit unlucky for that car) and fan-tas-tic pictures as usual. Your scenes really bring the model's back story to life.
|
|
reeft1
Member
Posts: 3,096
Member is Online
|
Post by reeft1 on Jul 29, 2023 2:48:36 GMT -5
Fabulous Aston
|
|
|
Post by 105epaul on Jul 29, 2023 8:03:23 GMT -5
Dang you have some great models, also love the way you display them. The line up of the four Astons for the 1959 LM24H is superb. I do have an old Western Models version of the winning car, may have a couple of others too but nothing like the four of them. The Ferraris are splendid too, I have always liked the 250GTE.
|
|
|
Post by jager on Jul 29, 2023 23:20:18 GMT -5
Very nicely done by Spark, to the point of incorporating the different windscreen and bodywork. Naylor obviously had talent as his 5th place in 1958 showed, but I wonder how they might have gone with a second pro in the car.
|
|
oldirish33
Member
"All Jaguars run on Guinness!"
Posts: 3,332
Member is Online
|
Post by oldirish33 on Aug 5, 2023 12:54:36 GMT -5
Tasman Champ - Every old Ferrari race car history is like an onion. You have to peel back one layer of history at a time to get the full measure of its past and like an onion, there are usually many layers. This car is no exception and started life as a factory Ferrari Dino 246 F1 race car in 1958. True to his run of 1/43 scale models, John Haynes (Historics Replicars) utilized the basic molds of his production runs to make variations of cars. This famous Dino It has a rich history and a colorful one as you will see in this abbreviated story of its history. Ferrari 256 V12 - New Zealand Grand Prix, 1960 - Historic ReplicarsLike every old race car, once it was past its prime, it had little value. In this case, the Dino 246 F1 (Ch. #0007) that started life as a Ferrari team car in 1958, was finished with its prime-time race career in 1960. In those years, it had competed in fourteen F1 races and earned the distinction of the last front-engined race car to win a F1 race when Phil Hill drove it to victory at the 1960 Italian GP at Monza. By that time its Dino six-cylinder engine had been uprated to 2.5L. Its career at Ferrari over, it was sold. New Zealander Pat Hoare bought the car using a Shell Oil connection from Ferrari a couple months after the 1960 F1 season. A 3.0L V12 from a 250 Testa Rosa had been installed and Hoare desired to race the car in the 1961 NZ Gold Star Championship and the car chassis was renumbered #0788F). At that time, grand prix drivers went to NZ and Australia to continue their racing during the summer down South. At the 1961 NZGP, Hoare raced against the likes of Brabham, McLaren, Bonnier and Hulme in Coopers, G. Hill in a BRM and Salvadori in a Lotus, finishing 7th. In 1962, Hoare again raced the car in NZ against internationals that had come down to race in the precursor of races which became the Tasman Series Championship. At the NZGP, Moss won in his Lotus 21, Hoare finished 5th behind Surtees, McLaren and Salvadori in Cooper T53’s and Bandini in a Maserati 250F. In both 1961 and 1962 after the international stars went home, racing continued in NZ and Horae did well enough in other races to win the NZ Gold Star Championship in the 256 V12 in both 1961 & 1962. By 1963, the car was truly past its prime and Pat Hoard tried to sell it, with no takers. In 1964 he had the car rebuilt into an aluminum bodied GT, which resembled a Ferrari GTO 64, but by most accounts was pretty ugly. The car remained in NZ up until 1970 when it was purchased by early vintage racing guiding light Neil Corner. The car was shipped back to the UK along with its original body panels (which had thankfully been preserved) and restored to its original 1958 Dino 246 F1 specification. The car is still a regular at vintage racing meets by current owner Tony Smith.
|
|
|
Post by Tom on Aug 5, 2023 13:13:44 GMT -5
Beautiful car and a great history too.
|
|
|
Post by Alfaholic on Aug 6, 2023 1:44:33 GMT -5
Every old Ferrari race car history is like an onion. You have to peel back one layer of history at a time to get the full measure of its past and like an onion, there are usually many layers. Change the word "Ferrari" to "Italian" and you get an idea on one of the reasons that cars from this country interest me so much. I'm a big fan of this one - Ferrari, F1, and a local-ish history -what's not to like.
|
|
oldirish33
Member
"All Jaguars run on Guinness!"
Posts: 3,332
Member is Online
|
Post by oldirish33 on Aug 6, 2023 14:59:01 GMT -5
Very nicely done by Spark, to the point of incorporating the different windscreen and bodywork. Naylor obviously had talent as his 5th place in 1958 showed, but I wonder how they might have gone with a second pro in the car. I just noticed that my comments on my previous post of the 1959 Aston Martin apparently did not "stick" I had meant to mention thanks for the comments and especially respond to your comment Ian. Naylor was of that breed of gentleman racer that could have likely been a professional racer, but was of means where doing it for money was not a consideration. Both were lapping about the same speed and times. They were just not as fast as the factory drivers. Le Mans is full of accidents that "professional" racers caused, so he was in good company there. One must also remember that Graham Whitehead was at the wheel of his Aston Martin when he had the accident on the Tour de France in 1958 that killed his half-brother. Beautiful car and a great history too. I was very intrigued by it Tom. It had a very good competition life at Ferrari over three seasons in F1 and besides Phil Hill, was driven by Olivier Gendebien, Dan Gurney and Wolfgang Von Trips. Its second life in New Zealand while maybe not on as big a stage, was certainly colorful, as well as fairly successful. Every old Ferrari race car history is like an onion. You have to peel back one layer of history at a time to get the full measure of its past and like an onion, there are usually many layers. Change the word "Ferrari" to "Italian" and you get an idea on one of the reasons that cars from this country interest me so much. I'm a big fan of this one - Ferrari, F1, and a local-ish history -what's not to like. Yes Martin, Italian could be substituted easily. The car raced in New Zealand at Ardmore, Waimate, Dunedin, Wigram and Teretonga (possibly others) and one race in Australia at Sandown (outside Melbourne?). This link takes you to a series of articles on both Pat Hoare and the car primotipo.com/2015/11/09/pat-hoares-ferrari-256-v12-at-the-dunedin-road-race-1961/ It really was a different time.
|
|
|
Post by Alfaholic on Aug 7, 2023 0:51:50 GMT -5
Very nicely done by Spark, to the point of incorporating the different windscreen and bodywork. Naylor obviously had talent as his 5th place in 1958 showed, but I wonder how they might have gone with a second pro in the car. I just noticed that my comments on my previous post of the 1959 Aston Martin apparently did not "stick" I had meant to mention thanks for the comments and especially respond to your comment Ian. Naylor was of that breed of gentleman racer that could have likely been a professional racer, but was of means where doing it for money was not a consideration. Both were lapping about the same speed and times. They were just not as fast as the factory drivers. Le Mans is full of accidents that "professional" racers caused, so he was in good company there. One must also remember that Graham Whitehead was at the wheel of his Aston Martin when he had the accident on the Tour de France in 1958 that killed his half-brother. Beautiful car and a great history too. I was very intrigued by it Tom. It had a very good competition life at Ferrari over three seasons in F1 and besides Phil Hill, was driven by Olivier Gendebien, Dan Gurney and Wolfgang Von Trips. Its second life in New Zealand while maybe not on as big a stage, was certainly colorful, as well as fairly successful. Change the word "Ferrari" to "Italian" and you get an idea on one of the reasons that cars from this country interest me so much. I'm a big fan of this one - Ferrari, F1, and a local-ish history -what's not to like. Yes Martin, Italian could be substituted easily. The car raced in New Zealand at Ardmore, Waimate, Dunedin, Wigram and Teretonga (possibly others) and one race in Australia at Sandown (outside Melbourne?). This link takes you to a series of articles on both Pat Hoare and the car primotipo.com/2015/11/09/pat-hoares-ferrari-256-v12-at-the-dunedin-road-race-1961/ It really was a different time. Thanks for the link to the article Jerry. I had relatives in Dunedin when I was a small lad, including a 2nd cousin that had a very extensive model railway collection, but I haven't been there since the late 1970s! I can't say that I remember there being a "GP" there! Wigram and Teretonga are familiar names to NZ racing enthusiasts though. The Sandown Circuit is very much in the suburbs of Melbourne and we visited the track many times when we lived in Melbourne between 2005-2007. Similar to Aintree in the UK and Pukehoe it is built around a horse racing track. Racing still occurs at the track, with the V8 series returning this year for their traditional 500km event, but it is constantly under threat of closure. It is in the middle of a residential area and subject to noise restrictions, and the owners, the Melbourne (horse) Racing Club are constantly reviewing the motorised activities and the potential of selling off the land for housing.
|
|
|
Post by jager on Aug 7, 2023 4:52:45 GMT -5
Lovely model of another interesting car Jerry. I was particularly taken with the last picture you showed with the extra detail around the nose that was reminiscent of the shark teeth seen on some WWII fighter plans. It would have been quite intimidating to see that in your rear vision mirrors.
|
|
oldirish33
Member
"All Jaguars run on Guinness!"
Posts: 3,332
Member is Online
|
Post by oldirish33 on Aug 7, 2023 10:01:09 GMT -5
Thanks for the additional information Martin. Housing creep and race car noise are problems here too with two well established local race tracks and movements always afoot to close them down. Portland International established in 1962 is in a city park, which puts additional pressure on government officials charged with making those decisions. Being the host of the largest sporting events in the state and a revenue source that helps fund the cost of other city parks, the arguments over noise (and carbon emissions) has not triumphed so far for outright bans, but that wolf is never far from the door.
|
|
oldirish33
Member
"All Jaguars run on Guinness!"
Posts: 3,332
Member is Online
|
Post by oldirish33 on Aug 9, 2023 12:16:19 GMT -5
Historic Daytona - I first saw a Ferrari 365 GTB/4 Competizione run in a Trans Am race in 1978. In the twilight of its career started in 1973, it had been run at Le Mans twice, Daytona, Sebring, Watkins Glen and now the Trans Am, driven and owned by actor Robert Carradine. Not the fastest car on the track, I remember its beautiful sound and a bit of pavement rumbling as it went by finishing mid-pack (it would have one final trick up its sleeve, finishing second at Daytona in 1979.) That experience endeared the 365 GTB/4 (or Daytona as its often called) to me, the only Ferrari 12-cylinder car I saw race in period. While not that car, I have always like this Charles Pozzi 365 GTB/4 and when Rodney Rawlings (fortythird) offered me the chance to acquire this rare, beautiful handbuilt model of the car to me, it was a very easy decision to make. Ferrari 365 GTB/4 Competizione S2 - Le Mans, 1972 - Le Phoenix/AMR built by Rodney RawlingsCarlos Alberto ‘Charles’ Pozzi was always passionate about cars and racing. His career as a race driver began in 1946 and he had success driving both Delahaye and Talbot-Lago in European events. He drove at Le Mans three times, his best finish was 8th in 1953. His success caught the eye of Enzo Ferrari and a close friendship began. That friendship ultimately resulted in Pozzi becoming the importer of Ferrari to France in 1969 and formed a racing team to campaign them, especially at Le Mans. Pozzis teams saw their greatest success at Le Mans in 1972, when this car (Ch# 15667) driven by Claude Ballot-Lena and Jean-Claude Andruet finished fifth overall and first in class. Their lap times and speed consistency also resulted in their winning the Index of Thermal Efficiency. A Competizione version of the 365 GTB/4, the car is powered by a 4.4L V12 producing 400 BHP and could do 190 MPH on the Mulsanne Straight. The faster speed and reliability of the Ferraris resulted in a 1-5 position sweep in the GT class in 1972. Using the road car as a basis, the Competizione versions of the 365 GTB/4 were made for select customer teams of Ferrari like Pozzi, NART, Filipinetti and Maranello Concessionaires. Five cars were made in each year (1971, 1972, 1973) and are referred to as Series 1, 2 and 3. Unlike the aluminum bodied S1 cars, this car built in 1972 had a steel body with alloy bonnet and boot lids. The S2 cars also had bigger wheel arches for larger tires. S3 cars were all steel bodies. After Le Mans, Andruet and Michele (Biche) Pettit took this car to victory on the 1972 Tour de France auto. Pozzi again entered the car at Le Mans in 1973, where it finished 9th overall, 2nd in Class behind the other Pozzi 365 GTB/4 entry. In all, sixteen official Competizione versions of the 365 GTB/4 were built by Ferraris Assistenza Clienti department. There were an additional eight unofficial but recognized all steel bodied production cars converted to Competizione specifications, mostly for N.A.R.T. My data base tells me that this Ferrari is number 500 of the Ferrari models that have been added to my collection. That number surprised me too! While I have sold or given away some over the years, I still have a large number. This model is very special and will be the subject of a diorama with its sister car from 1972 and the Pozzi support trucks in the near future.
|
|
|
Post by Tom on Aug 9, 2023 12:34:39 GMT -5
I've always loved the racing Daytonas and this is a great one. Fab model too.
|
|
|
Post by 105epaul on Aug 9, 2023 12:52:39 GMT -5
What Tom said applies to me too. I still have the Solido model of a Pozzi Daytona that I bought new back in the 70s and I do have some others lurking around. Solido also made the Daytona road car, still have the silver one I bought new. No idea how many Ferraris I own but I do have a goodly amount of them.
|
|