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Post by Tom on Sept 13, 2022 13:52:23 GMT -5
Interesting, looking forward to the build!
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Post by DeadCanDanceR on Sept 13, 2022 16:10:53 GMT -5
Cool!
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Post by WallOfCars on Sept 13, 2022 18:14:00 GMT -5
Jerry, your neck of the woods has always been synonymous with logging, even to those of us on the other corner of the country! You are certainly the man for the job and what a nice time to do it as we head towards Fall...Timber!
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Post by oldirish33 on Sept 14, 2022 11:26:44 GMT -5
Interesting, looking forward to the build! Cool! Thanks guys! I will post images as I make progress. Jerry, your neck of the woods has always been synonymous with logging, even to those of us on the other corner of the country! You are certainly the man for the job and what a nice time to do it as we head towards Fall...Timber! So much so that many in your part of the country think we are all lumberjacks! However, I do own three chain saws! Thanks for the vote of confidence, it will certainly be a good project as the weather turns colder, and spend more time indoors although we have had no rain since June. Now, if I can just keep the Monty Python Lumberjack song out of my head while I work on this....
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Post by Tom on Sept 14, 2022 11:29:30 GMT -5
Old Irish Logging
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Post by jager on Sept 14, 2022 19:22:53 GMT -5
A guy at our locval model club collects nothing but traction engines and I've long admired the detail that goes into these models.
Looks like a great side project to keep you occupied in the coming weeks.
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Post by Alfaholic on Sept 15, 2022 1:13:36 GMT -5
So much so that many in your part of the country think we are all lumberjacks! However, I do own three chain saws! Geez, I've only got two - total respect to you. (I do press wild flowers, though ).
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Post by LM24HRS on Sept 19, 2022 1:58:16 GMT -5
Jerry, you are a man after my own heart. I too was introduced to stream as a very young boy. As a family we always visited traction engine shows where we could so loving your change in diorama direction.
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Post by oldirish33 on Sept 20, 2022 15:20:32 GMT -5
TIMBER!!! - Thanks for the positive notes about the steam logging diorama. Since my last post, I have been moving along at well, full steam on the base and its preparation. First step was to give the base a coat of primer to give glue, grout, etc. a better surface to adhere to than slick masonite. Probably wasn't a necessary step, but I outlined the road bed with tape as I wanted to give that road edges a different texture you get when heavy equipment moves on a dirt road bed and larger stones and dirt pile up along the edges. I used a textured primer, but probably didn't need to, but was what I had on hand in an off-white color. The next step was to give a coat of paint that would provide a darker tint close to the color of the dirt I applied, to not only cover where it might be thin in spots, but also some additional depth. The color was applied to the base much like a stain and then wiped off. I repeated this process a couple time, this is the first coat. You can see the texture better and bits of tissue I used to wipe the stain, which all had to be cleaned off after each application. In hindsight, a cotton cloth might have been better and less messy. In the next photo I have started applying dirt to the base surface. I do this by first laying down a coat of water/white glue mixture (about 50/50) to the area I want the dirt to adhere to. I have a couple of different grades of dirt, fine and coarse. The dirt is made from earth behind my shop, sifted to pick out any debris and small rocks. Borrowing a rolling pin from the kitchen, I roll the dirt a bit at a time between wax paper to get a fine or more coarse mixture as desired. The dirt is then spread on the area I have applied the glue mixture and is allowed to dry. Excess is then knocked off the base and collected for reuse. Here is the glue mixture which I apply with an old brush and I am working on the road bed. The edges will get coarse dirt applied, the middle a finer application of dirt. The tape is to keep a even edge on the base. Since it will ultimately be going in a display case, I want to keep the edges as clean as possible so the lid/cover of the case will fit without obstruction. I built up the corner of the base with tile grout/adhesive. I also started applying some of background since the "tree trunks" will adhere to the grout as it dries. The area can then be covered with ground material once dry. Note the road edges are slightly raised. The base finished, I have started to apply some of the detail. While I wish the diorama could be big enough to incorporate a spar pole and donkey engine which were used to drag cut trees to a landing area where the logs were then sawed into desired lengths and the trunks limbed (all by hand). The crane would be used to move logs to the sawers and limbers and then to the log pile awaiting hauling down the mountain by steam engine and wagon. I still have more detail for the base. I took sawdust from my table saw and ground it to make the sawdust on the ground. I recently read a book about logging the mountains near where I grew up. Before the Great Depression, logging operations were largely devoid of mechanical saws and other labor saving devices. Roads were rough hewn by hand over cleared land and the use of gravel for roads, log landings, etc. was not used until well into the 1930's because until the use of diesel trucks, there was not an adequate means to get it from the quarry to the job site. As a result, logging was hot, dirty physical work. Operations were dependent on good dry weather, as rain would turn everything into a muddy quagmire. More to come...
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Post by WallOfCars on Sept 20, 2022 15:57:11 GMT -5
This is spectacular Jerry! Love how you're showing the key step...we might actually learn something Like that you're going to have raised/irregular edge heights, which just adds to the realism. And yes, keep those base sides clear and smooth for a cover. Impressed also with your 'cuts' on the upright logs. That is exactly what happens when falling a tree with parts that just tear, snap etc. You mentioned the muddy quagmire and I could not help but think of a reality TV show a few years back called 'swamp loggers'. Perhaps it's on youtube or elsewhere, a good summary of SE U.S. rural 'culture' hahaha!
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Post by Tom on Sept 20, 2022 23:04:10 GMT -5
Looks great already, thanks for this insight into the techniques used. Very clever!
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Post by DeadCanDanceR on Sept 21, 2022 1:15:37 GMT -5
AMAZING!!!
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Post by jager on Sept 23, 2022 5:11:58 GMT -5
Great attention to detail Jerry, but we wouldn't have expect anything less.
It's only a little thing, but I really like that saw embedded in the log in the bottom right of the diorama.
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Post by oldirish33 on Sept 23, 2022 11:32:16 GMT -5
Great attention to detail Jerry, but we wouldn't have expect anything less. It's only a little thing, but I really like that saw embedded in the log in the bottom right of the diorama. Thanks! If you have ever tried to use a cross-cut saw, you know how hard it is and how much coordinated effort it takes. Since all logging then was done by saw and axe, I had to have at least one in the diorama. I made that from the broken blade of a kitchen utensil. It pays to not throw things away!
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Post by oldirish33 on Sept 28, 2022 12:52:00 GMT -5
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