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Post by Stewart on Jun 1, 2022 6:03:39 GMT -5
I’m glad this feature has been revived on this new forum.  I downloaded this to my iPad recently and think it’s one of the best Moss books of the many that I’ve owned/read. A good combination of well informed racing material and lifestyle information with many interesting anecdotes. It’s written by Richard Williams who also wrote the excellent “The Last Road Race” about the 1957 Pescara GP which Moss famously won for Vanwall.  |
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Post by Tom on Jun 1, 2022 6:26:04 GMT -5
Great stuff. Need to get me some biographies...
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Post by JSB33 on Jun 1, 2022 7:10:52 GMT -5
Not surprised at all that you have this, looks like a good one
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Post by oldirish33 on Jun 1, 2022 10:55:33 GMT -5
Two I will need to keep an eye out for!
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Post by 105epaul on Jun 2, 2022 12:12:32 GMT -5
I have 'The Boy' book, I really should get around to reading it. Richard Williams is an excellent writer.
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Post by Stewart on Jun 2, 2022 13:56:33 GMT -5
I have 'The Boy' book, I really should get around to reading it. Richard Williams is an excellent writer. I only have it digitally now but will get it analogue. Thanks Jeff and Jerry also. This is the second of my three “Go To” Moss books.  It does what it says on the tin and is an essential record of his career. It is not a coffee table item but a well thumbed and annotated reference work. I may weasel a pristine edition for Christmas/Birthday in the future.  |
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Post by Stewart on Jun 2, 2022 14:30:13 GMT -5
This is the third of my core Moss books. I have many others that I also enjoy but are not so significant.  This collaboration with Doug Nye is a fantastic, in depth, appraisal of most of the cars that he drove and of his driving technique. “Must Have”!    |
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Post by oldirish33 on Jun 2, 2022 14:50:00 GMT -5
I have both those books and refer to them quite frequently. Excellent!
Stewart do you have Moss' autobiography " All But My Life"?
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Post by Stewart on Jun 2, 2022 15:39:59 GMT -5
I have both those books and refer to them quite frequently. Excellent! Stewart do you have Moss' autobiography " All But My Life"? Thanks for the reminder Jerry, I’ve not read it in ages and will take it upstairs to read tonight.  |
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Post by Stewart on Jun 3, 2022 4:11:12 GMT -5
Whilst rummaging through three bookshelves (a mixture of bikes, cars, trains and planes - no boats) to find “All But My Life” I came across this little gem.   It was published in 1962 and is a fascinating, well written, technical account of the development of the racing car. It has quite a few interesting photos and many line drawings.    It is still available, I think the hard back versions were published in 1956.  |
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Post by oldirish33 on Jun 3, 2022 9:17:22 GMT -5
Written by three great automotive journalists. It would be a very interesting read and probably worth it just for the old pictures!
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Post by Stewart on Jun 3, 2022 13:29:57 GMT -5
Written by three great automotive journalists. It would be a very interesting read and probably worth it just for the old pictures! This is one of them Jerry which shows completely the De Dion arrangement which I’m still trying to understand!  |
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Post by oldirish33 on Jun 3, 2022 16:19:09 GMT -5
Written by three great automotive journalists. It would be a very interesting read and probably worth it just for the old pictures! This is one of them Jerry which shows completely the De Dion arrangement which I’m still trying to understand! What don't you understand? How it works or why they used it? I am going to have to stop looking at your pages, its costing me money!  I went on ABE Books and not only bought that book, but a couple other Denis Jenkinson books as well.  |
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Post by Stewart on Jun 4, 2022 10:12:15 GMT -5
This is one of them Jerry which shows completely the De Dion arrangement which I’m still trying to understand! What don't you understand? How it works or why they used it? I am going to have to stop looking at your pages, its costing me money!  I went on ABE Books and not only bought that book, but a couple other Denis Jenkinson books as well.  I’m struggling a bit to understand exactly how it works. I’ve googled it and found varying descriptions of it’s operation. Any advice on a good source of info would be handy. I understand the advantages, reduced unsprung weight etc. Enjoy the books Jerry. |
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Post by oldirish33 on Jun 4, 2022 11:13:14 GMT -5
Not being a automotive engineer or suspension specialist, I will try and explain my understanding of how the De Dion suspension works and its benefits over a live axle. Doubtless someone can do it better than I, but here goes. A live rear axle is a stiff tube which connects the rear wheels to the differential, all supported by the chassis. The problem with a live axle is that on an uneven surface, or under cornering where one of the rear wheels lifts, the power being applied to both wheels is lost to the lifting wheel. It also upsets the chassis and suspension geometry together with power loss until both rear wheels are parallel again and making equal road contact. In the days before independent rear suspensions (IRS), (where rear wheels are kept parallel, but power is applied equally), no matter what the other wheel is doing, the De Dion suspension was in effect an intermediate stop between the live axle and IRS. Like IRS, the wheels act somewhat independently, while reducing loading on the chassis and keeping the rear wheels parallel. This is accomplished by universal joints at the differential and road wheel so that power can be applied to a wheel that is moving up, down and side to side. The differential is part of the chassis so the unsprung weight is less since the chassis is not supporting a heavy axle housing. This gives a car better handling and increased power, which is why it was favored on race cars. While the shocks and trailing arms, etc. help limit up and down movement of the wheel, they do not work to keep the rear wheels parallel to each other. That is accomplished by the De Dion tube which connects each rear wheel to the other and keeps the wheel in parallel alignment. The picture above shows the rear suspension and De Dion tube pretty well. So in essence, the car has even power applied to the road, regardless if one rear wheel is trying to lift, while the suspension is working to keep that wheel in contact with the road and avoid lifting of either wheel. I don't know if that makes any more sense, but it is the basic understanding of the De Dion rear-end in my simple mind. |
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I went on ABE Books and not only bought that book, but a couple other Denis Jenkinson books as well. 
I went on ABE Books and not only bought that book, but a couple other Denis Jenkinson books as well. 