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Post by Tom on Apr 23, 2023 15:22:49 GMT -5
You are right, those spats are masterpieces!
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Post by DeadCanDanceR on Apr 23, 2023 17:36:25 GMT -5
You are right, those spats are masterpieces! Agreed wholeheartedly! 🖤
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Post by countach53 on Apr 24, 2023 12:06:28 GMT -5
As usually, all this work is very interesting, especially your way to fix the dimensions.
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Post by reeft1 on Apr 24, 2023 17:56:53 GMT -5
Those spat coverings look ace
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Post by LM24HRS on Apr 25, 2023 11:54:08 GMT -5
In true Germany engineering style........use Lego!
Marvelous to see Jean.
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Post by bertone on Apr 25, 2023 17:29:33 GMT -5
As you say, the spats are the design highlight of this car but also a real highlight of your build. Spectacular attention to detail.
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Post by Jean B. on May 6, 2023 9:32:12 GMT -5
You are right, those spats are masterpieces! Thank you, but I think it's "know-how" rather than masterly work. The reverse side of the metal sheet must be etched slightly wider than the decoration on the front side, and so you can simulate "real" louvers.
Agreed wholeheartedly! 🖤 Cross your fingers that all this won't be messed when painting & varnishing...! But I'm planning to airbrush the spats separately very thin to avoid this...
As usually, all this work is very interesting, especially your way to fix the dimensions. ...and the most difficult cars in this Horch series are yet to come!
Those spat coverings look ace Thanks! I've done a single pair first to check the result, and to be honest: I was surprised that the very first attempt gave this result! So a second pair must be done, hopefully coming week.
In true Germany engineering style........use Lego! Marvelous to see Jean. Well, I guess I have a certain talent to "improvise", mutually inherited from my Grandpa.
As you say, the spats are the design highlight of this car but also a real highlight of your build. Spectacular attention to detail. Thank you! I'm surprised that no other model car maker has ever designed a second/better version of this car, simply for it's sheer beauty! Western Models made a good job, but as I said: they chose the design sketch for this car, not the real one, and so many extravagant details don't appear.
Am I completely lost in my Legomania? Nooo, not entirely Some smaller works were done, and I had a lot of other things to do recently, and today - for example - I've spent seven hours watching the Coronation of King Charles. Here we can see my making of the spares. It's always difficult to define the center line of an old model as those vintage gems are crooked and asymmetric in any way! Of course I want to give both cars a separate, covered and almost fully faired-in spare.
The cut-out must be made by hand, so it takes a while until it's evenly rounded and big enough to take the spare including several paint layers, on the other hand so small that the spare fits in almost tightly.
Using a template to define the cutout for the spats. I've scanned original photos and discovered that the spats are not exactly half-round, but have a weird "rounded" shape, instead!
First attempt was to glue the spats onto the lower edge, but meanwhile I'm sure to design a better solution for inserting the spats.
However, that's the look I try to achieve.
Sorry, blurred, I had to hold camera, car, spat and torch...
Unbelievable, but I spent a complete day to form out the tail ends for the licence plates. It's an extremely complicated architecture, almost unvisible on all photos.
I cannot say if this is 100% original, but I guess it's quite close...
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Post by Tom on May 6, 2023 9:45:46 GMT -5
I disagree, the fact that you came up with the technique to make those spats makes you an artisan. It's not just honing, filing, sanding and grinding until you have the correct shape, it's also mastering any way to make the detailed pieces that defines a true craftsman. Making the perfect opening for those spats is another great example, I'm sure that I wouldn't be able to do such a great job.
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Post by DeadCanDanceR on May 6, 2023 10:04:41 GMT -5
I disagree, the fact that you came up with the technique to make those spats makes you an artisan. It's not just honing, filing, sanding and grinding until you have the correct shape, it's also mastering any way to make the detailed pieces that defines a true craftsman. Making the perfect opening for those spats is another great example, I'm sure that I wouldn't be able to do such a great job. My thoughts, exactly! Your ability is amazing!
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Post by reeft1 on May 6, 2023 10:48:08 GMT -5
Like it!
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Post by Jean B. on May 19, 2023 11:34:16 GMT -5
I disagree, the fact that you came up with the technique to make those spats makes you an artisan. It's not just honing, filing, sanding and grinding until you have the correct shape, it's also mastering any way to make the detailed pieces that defines a true craftsman. Making the perfect opening for those spats is another great example, I'm sure that I wouldn't be able to do such a great job. That's kind, thank you! And I'm sure you would do such a job, too! See: it took me eight years to really get "into" photo-etching to the point I work with it today. At least I'm now able to make etching jobs with measurements which are usually described as "impossible to make" with 0.2mm sheet metal But most important for me is to share all this here on MS43 with gentle fellows like you, simply enjoying things about which "normal" people would'nt talk a single word
My thoughts, exactly! Your ability is amazing! Thank you so much! Let's hope that I will get the spats properly airbrushed! That means, painting is not that difficult, but varnishing will be terrible, trying to avoid the thin slots getting filled with varnish...
Thanks! And I like your following this thread!
Next turn of photo-etching.
The first attempt of getting the spats mounted was not good enough, so I decided to make supporting elements by p/e. It's still difficult, but now I think it will work.
Basic door panels for inside. They are necessary for two reasons: 1.) to get an even ground for fixing the final interior panels, and 2.) to have an exact top edge for shaping the complete side walls of the body.
Here's the comparison between original model and the top edge line which I have transferred from photos of the original car.
And now it gets tricky: As I've already said, the model-maker used the design sketch for the car, but the real car had a kind of "stiff collar" going around the passenger's compartment. First I apply some polyester putty, using adhesive tape as supporter.
Then bringing all this into shape, using the p/e door panels as template.
Men's shirts with such a stiff collar are called "father's-murderer-collar" in Germany
Still a little bit too high, but reducing the height is rather simple... The polyster putty is quite strong, so the stability of this part is no problem.
But it gets even more difficult: This stiff collar has to get another step inside, and although I normally only use metal, I have to use plastic this time. All attempts to bend metal exactly into the rounded shape were without any success, so I have to "jump over my own shadow", as we say in Germany!
However, it works!
And now...
...I've got the correct look!
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Post by DeadCanDanceR on May 19, 2023 12:30:23 GMT -5
Amazing, simply amazing work!
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Post by Tom on May 19, 2023 12:34:29 GMT -5
As usual, incredible attention to detail. But then it would be a shame to go to all this trouble and leave out details like that...
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Post by reeft1 on May 19, 2023 13:15:24 GMT -5
The added details keep raising the standard
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Post by LM24HRS on May 23, 2023 1:39:29 GMT -5
The attention to detail here is quite mind blowing. So pleased we can witness your work Jean.
I'm enjoying every step.
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